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Sometime after the album 2017 BWSB posted on myspace that they were in need of a new bass guitarist. John parted on peaceful terms with the band. The band announced that they had no contact with Jwonny for several months, and were unsure of his location. They found a new bassist soon after known as Mulac Mnicurr and also found Duke Alfred Higgenbottom The Fourth for clean vocals.